Surillo Vitaly Yuryevich Biography

Sergey Safronov, editor -in -chief of the pedagogical council, the chairman of the Public Council under the Ministry of Education of Russia, the founder of the Master Slavl project told the chief editor of the pedagogical council Sergey Safronov that he thinks about the certification of teachers, the new education program and direct democracy, and why he is not going to lobby for his interests in a new position.

Vitaly Surillo. Photo Agency of Strategic Initiatives. He graduated from the Institute of International Relations, was engaged in and continue to engage in business, far from school - industrial real estate. Five years ago, he launched a social project - the career guidance city of Master Slavl. Perhaps this prompted my colleagues to pull me out a member of the Public Council under the Ministry of Education.

Someone from the association of entrepreneurs of “Business Russia” or “support” nominated me. She really interested me, because the executive authorities do not always hear the voice of parents. I do not pretend to be a professional in industry specifics, but the meaning of such a body in another - the public helps to control the activities of professionals. But, of course, we should not follow how money is spent, like the Accounts Chamber, although this is also important.

The most important thing is mediation, the elimination of a vacuum between the public and specialists who work in the ministry. My task is to help people understand each other. No, relatively speaking, a fixed administrative resource. The ministry, of course, creates a site, provides a premises. But if you want to have advisers and experts next to you, then this is a matter of exclusively personal agreements.

In addition, everyone in the ministries is so tormented by their turnover that, probably, the activities of the Public Council cannot be in the very first place. It consists in the fact that the more you work in a particular field, the more you learn to listen to experts and know more. Inviting experts to meetings of the Public Council, you give the ministry the opportunity to listen to different points of view on the most painful issues.

The Ministry of Education and in general the field of education is, of course, a scale that is different from customs. Relatively speaking, if they approach a person from the street and ask how re -export is formed, then he is unlikely to comment on this. And if you ask the question of how to teach mathematics, then almost everyone will express his opinion and will often be deeply convinced that his opinion is the only correct one.

I have no desire to take the side of bureaucracy, but I always try to take the most correct position in relation to him. And they are just as correct to me. I am a little embarrassed by some slowness in solving some issues, but no one says that the topics that are raised by me and colleagues will not be discussed. The new team of the ministry still came not so long ago.

The shaft of the problems that collapsed on them, primarily associated with the Covid and how to build education in these conditions, I think, would crush anyone in their place. You can only sympathize with the rather elaborated composition of the ministry, how they cope with all this. Have you got acquainted with the current Minister of Education? Can you call you a "man Kravtsov" or not?

The first time I saw the minister when my parents were invited to go through the exam. He was then the head of Rosobrnadzor, we looked at each other, but nothing more. After all, the chairman has no command functions, only coordination of work. He must listen to everyone and, the maximum, arithmetic to calculate that so much has advocated such an opinion, and so much for another.

All members of the Public Council signed papers about the absence of a conflict of interest. My project in additional education I can not even mention, at any discussion. When solving close issues, for example, choosing the optimal form of additional education, I just have to get self -stir. In addition, I add, my project is social, and there is no profit there, he lives on a subsidies from my business.

Meeting of the Public Council of the Ministry of Education. Photo by the press service of the Ministry of Education. My company built industrial buildings, warehouse complexes, factories. It was extremely difficult to find qualified workers, even invited people from other regions to work. The more I dealt with issues related to the level of training of working specialties, the more it seems that in the system of secondary vocational education there is a disaster by getting acquainted with the experience of existing parks of professions, where education is combined with entertainment, I caught fire to create something similar in Russia.

But I initially did not like the international, globalist approach, I really wanted the park to be a model of the Russian city. The question immediately arises - how? If the child is accustomed to communicate in a circle where there is not a single swear word, no one spits and does not drop the bulls on the asphalt, then I dare to assume, he himself will not do this.In addition, we have no edification and obligation in the Master Slavel.

It is one thing to talk about the successes of the domestic automotive industry, and another-in the form of some stories to tell about the life of real people who developed a particular industry. The child can come up, take the headphones, look at the screen, and there, for example, there will be a film, as it happened. Or maybe not fit. Another time is suitable. When you run, rush along the Master Slavl and suddenly stop in front of the portrait of Akhmatova and read only four lines there, probably for someone it can have a much greater effect than the hearing in the lesson "Today we go through the work of the talented poetess Anna Andreyevna Akhmatova." Even a cool monument to Pushkin lying on the grass.

Each child considers it his duty to rub either his nose or hands, and therefore these parts of the sculpture shine. It seems to me that such an acquaintance with Alexander Sergeyevich will bring no less benefit than just stories about his biography in the lesson. To talk about the car how it is arranged is quite boring and difficult, and if you pass the exam for the rights, albeit our special “master”, then the rules of the road, most likely, will learn with great pleasure.

How to use a fire extinguisher, it seems to me that it will also be remembered faster than at a lecture on how to behave in a fire. Basic knowledge is necessarily needed for personal ripening, a person should know for sure that good is good, should know his language and his literature. We want or do not want, but this has a huge impact on value guidelines.

The school is responsible for the mandatory. It seems to me that additional education creates an opportunity for a child to try everything that he wants, and not what is mandatory. And then, by the method of poke, in the end, find your recognition. The first reason is the children and so all the time at school, and they are probably not the most interesting to offer them to play it. The second reason is that I have a huge singers in front of teachers.

You can always allow some fake note, but not everywhere. It is very difficult to talk about a profession where the most important thing is love, for example, there is nothing and a priest related to the profession. Although we talk about religious holidays that exist about traditional religions, but still there are areas that, apparently, do not need to affect.

That is, the Ministry of Emergency Situations wants to be told about the profession of a fireman, and the Ministry of Education does not consider it necessary to promote a teacher's profession? In all your interviews, you emphasize your respect for teachers, especially often recall Inna Yakovlevna, I was really very lucky with teachers in life and still lucky. Probably all that is good in me is thanks to them.

There was another teacher - literature. Imagine a Soviet school. Some kind of conversation, we are discussing Dostoevsky. The dispute about whether the schismatics had the right to kill or did not have. In my youth, I argued that, of course, I had the right, because as a result it was possible to deduce a fantastic race of people. And she wrote an essay, she put five for Russian and for literature, but wrote a very short remark: “Reasonable, logical, but still incorrect, unfair and immoral.” Then she tried to explain her point of view, and I asked directly: “Are you a believer?

After such sincerity, it became interesting to me - how is it? With this, my movement began towards the church. If we generally talk about the spiritual sphere, a confessional story is a special case, it is more important to outline the values ​​to the values ​​that the school transmits. Therefore, any teacher is primarily a spiritual teacher. When the teacher teaches you to knit sea nodes, he is pretty not only what does, but also the way.

Values ​​depend on the meaning that he invests in his profession, why he is doing this at all. Or, for example, a teacher-opposition who criticizes power? Nevertheless, in my opinion, one cannot impose a position that the child should determine on his own. Including - the choice of faith and political preferences. You must convey the value of kindness, and let it determine its specific forms, each determines independently.

Any spiritual values, from love for neighbor to love for the Motherland - all this can be conveyed with the help of literature, history, even beauty in mathematics. There is, perhaps, a certain bust with a patriotic theme. I see nothing wrong with this if we talk a lot about who and how defended his homeland. Regardless of whether it was in the M century, either at m, or at another time.

It seems to me that some basic things should be laid in a state school, in respect of which there is a public consensus. My eldest daughter was wildly shy, and we made a mistake that he had put her to school early. She just went to the board and was silent. No matter what they ask her, she was silent or cried when the children began to hoot.As a result, the teacher put her on her knees, hugged her and said: “Well, tell me in my ear,” and she began to tell her something.